Khon Diaow

Alone

The Thai phrase khon diaow means “one person” or, alternately ‘by yourself’ or ‘alone’. 

Khon diaow applies to me in almost every way, and this befuddles Thai people.

Thais, with very few exceptions, don’t do things alone. 

The first thing that I learned about Thai culture is the deep dependence on family that exceeds anything I’ve been exposed to in my life before.  Children are deeply devoted to their parents and grandparents, and offer respect to older siblings.  Young people will subjugate their own desires and feelings to follow the advice of parents and older brothers and sisters.  I’ve met dozens of Thai people who have a college degree that has nothing to do with their career.  When I ask why they studied one thing, then chose a different career, they invariably tell me that an older family member suggested the choice of major (or faculty) but once they started studying they found they didn’t like it.

So, if they didn’t like accounting or law or physics — whatever — why didn’t they change?  Becuase it would have been disrespectful of the family member who made the recommendation.  Instead, they simply continued studying a subject that didn’t interest them for four years.

My earliest exposure to this power of family in Thailand was back when I was teaching English.  In my first week or two, we were having a discussion about relationships in class.  I was asking each student whether they were married, had a boyfriend/girlfriend, or not, along with follow up questions.  I asked one university student if she had a boyfriend.  “No” she replied a bit ruefully. 

I asked a followup, “Have you ever had a boyfriend?” (switching from present simple to  the present-perfect).  She answered that she had.  When I asked what happened, she explained that she had a boyfriend, but her mother talked to her and told her that education is the most important thing and that she needed to concentrate on her studies.  Mom said that she should break up with her boyfriend; that she could get a boyfriend again after she finished college.

Having been in Thailand only a matter of days, I was stunned.  “So, you broke up with your boyfriend because your mother wanted you to focus on your studies?!”

“Yes” she replied, as if it were the most natural thing in the world.  And of course, for Thai people, it is.  Family is the most important thing in their lives, and they are taught deep respect for parents and authority all their lives.  Submission to parents and all authority, from the King to teachers, is part of what makes things work the way they do here.

And I can’t let the moment pass without a quick comment on the idea in Thailand that education is the most important thing.  This is so commonly accepted that it almost goes without saying here.  Thais believe in the power of universities (as do people in many countries).  But this contrasts greatly with the value that Australians, Americans, Germans, British and other westerners place on experience.

How many Thai backpackers have you ever seen?  Most Thai people never really do anything.  I often meet Thais in their late 40s or 50s… ask them about the interesting things they’ve done or seen in their lives and as likely as not I’ll get the equivalent of a blank stare. 

My father wasn’t an entertaining man and God knows he never had much money, but if you were patient enough to listen, he could tell you stories about his golden gloves boxing when he was young, seeing the fjords of Iceland from the deck of a battleship in the 1950s,  or the time he accidentally took a girl (picked up in a bar) back to his hotel room where he had forgotten he already left one girl sleeping in his bed. 

I mean the man had lived.

Thais study, work and have fun, but too often they never really live.

But I’m getting sidetracked… I don’t mean to write an essay on Thai’s lack of experience to supplement education or their submission to authority.  My intent is to explain how close families are in Thailand. 

Perhaps when I talk about Thai families I make it sound more like a prison.   Hardly. 

Thais will live together with an extended family of three generations, and perhaps cousins or uncles in the mix.  If circumstances cause them to live apart from the family — for example, moving to Bangkok to work — they will call the family daily… probably several times per day.  They truly enjoy living with their family, and miss them greatly if they are apart.

Even when Thais make the big move to Bangkok for work, they tend to live with a family member if at all possible.  If it isn’t possible, they will live with a friend — probably someone from their hometown that they have known since childhood.  It’s very rare for a Thai to live alone.

By contrast, I live by myself.  My family — such as it is — consists of two older sisters on the other side of the world.  One of the sisters (the one I am close to) is in touch with me by email once or twice a month, and we talk on the phone about four times per year.  The other sister calls me once or twice every year — typically on my birthday or a major holiday.  My total family contact per annum is probably something less than five hours.

Thai people can’t understand it.  If I see them as stifled by the family, they see me as disconnected and adrift.  How can I possibly live without the constant support of family?!

I tend to bring a lot of girls to my apartment for sex.  Invariably when they come in my room, they look around and ask, “You stay alone?”

When I say that I do, every one of them asks the same question, “Why?!”

I’m never sure exactly how to take the question… it often sounds like an accusation. 

I’m not really sure if they’re asking why I don’t have a wife or girlfriend, or just why I don’t ’stay with a friend’.  But they are definitely a bit disoriented about my obviously voluntary decision to stay by myself.

Often, when I meet new people, they will ask about my living arrangements, and when I say that I don’t have a wife or girlfriend, and that I stay khon diaow, they reply in a way that always bothers me.  They say, “I don’t believe you!”

Now, if it’s a bar girl we’re talking about, I understand this reaction.   She thinks I’m lying because I don’t want to admit the truth.  What’s amazing is how often ‘regular’ people tell me that they don’t believe me.  I’m talking about people whom I meet in both business and social situations. 

What amazes me about the answer is that they consider it rude to push the door closed with my foot, but think nothing of — effectively — calling me a liar when they first meet me.  I’ve gotten used to it, though.

Thais just can’t imagine how you can be in your late 40’s and gainfully employed, and not have a wife (or two), and more amazingly, why you’d be forced to live alone.  I say ‘forced’ because I think most Thais can’t imagine living alone voluntarily.

I think that Thais feel sorry for me – no wife or children, parents dead, cut off from my siblings and home country — my life sounds like a torture to them.  For me, it’s perfect!  No responsibilities, complete freedom to do as I please, no cheating on the wife or guilty sneaky sex.  Life is easy and fun.

There’s really no way to convincingly explain that to most Thai people.  It simply rubs too hard against the grain of their culture.  For Thais, if you’re not with other people there is no sanukRuseuk ngaow is a Thai phrase that means you feel lonely.  To a Thai, a life spent alone is a life of misery.

This is why Thais so seldom move to another country.  There are multiple hurdles like language, food and cold weather, but the most difficult aspect is being away from family and friends.  Ruseuk ngaow is what sends them back home.

Are there some Thais who can and do live alone?  Absolutely.  And I find that these are the Thais that I am most comfortable with.  They are often somewhat ‘westernized’ already.  They’ve adopted a bit of love for independence that my parents instilled in me.

My father left home at age 17 and joined the navy.  He spent his adult life sailing around the world on battleships and aircraft carriers.  My mother left home as a young girl and lived with her older sister.  She was a teenager at the start of World War II, and got a job renting pillows to passengers on Greyhound busses — an early form of flight attendant.  The job allowed her to travel all over America for free.

These are two people who were fiercely independent.  They were both connected to their own families by the slimmest of threads.  My father was from New York, my mother from a farm in North Carolina.  With two families from two very different places our little family-of-five was never connected to the cousins, aunts and grandparents.  I was a surprise package, born to my mother near her 40th birthday, so my sisters both moved away about the time I started school.  I grew up almost as an only child, with a working mother and a father who was away at sea half of every year.

Is it a surprise that I enjoy being alone?

One of the places I go often to drink and relax is The Pent Club.  Every time I go in, the girls will come say hello to me and ask, “Maa khon diaow mai?  Puen teenai?“  (You come alone?  Where’s your friend?)

Every time.

Thai culture is a group culture, a family culture. A culture that is based on sanuk (fun), and sanuk requires other people. 

Thais are sure I can’t be having any fun because I am khon diaow.


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14 Responses to “Khon Diaow”

  1. anon Says:

    “not being alone” – just chalk it up as another weird thai cultural quirk…along with the ridiculous obsession for white skin and the stupid concept of face.

  2. John Brown Says:

    Your khon diaow theory is spot on. And, it is also the reason why I would rather be with a buddy when going into the go-go bars. If you are alone, then “any” girl feels compelled to sit with you (often they are the bottom rung of the ladder too). I hate shooing away people, and the go-go bars are the ONLY place in Thailand where I feel compelled to do so… and it is usually because I was alone.

  3. alan boon Says:

    Hiya mr wolf (feel like im in pulp fiction)

    Thanks for the most entertaining website on thailand,im one of those once a year heroes who make an annual trip to the los in search of spinners and massages,and your web site helps me get through the other 350 days of the year long may you reign.

    Thats the buttering up done,i have a request ive organised a tour of 13 over 40s to los in feb,ive done most of thailand myself but i want to take them to a ping pong show in patpong ive been to a couple in pattaya but we are not getting down tere this trip,so after the yearly pilgramage to radio city to see the elvis show is there a show you could recommend that we wont get extremelly ripped off i would be most appreciative and if you fancy a beer with a mixture of brits living in the uk and australia we would be happy to buy you a few.

    Thanking you in anticipation

    Best regards

    Alan

  4. Werewolf Says:

    Alan,

    Wow! Thirteen men… are you guys gonna go everywhere together? If you wear identical shirts they’ll probably think you’re the England rugby team.

    Recommending a ping pong show in Patpong seems to me to be a risky thing to do. Basically anywhere you go for a PP show in Patpong you have the potential to get ripped off. That said, 13 fellas means a lot of trouble if they try to fuck with you.

    I have only ever been to one bar for ping pong shows (which I don’t find particularly entertaining) I had to see them once in my life, and I did that at a bar called the SIDELINE. I didn’t have any problem going in or out, and the service was okay, (though the place is basically a dingy shit-hole) so each time a friend from overseas comes to town and wants to see a PP show, I go back to the only one I know: the SIDELINE.

    Based on a similar comment I wrote on another website, another punter went in alone and reported that they tried all the standard rip-off moves on him. Maybe I was just lucky on my first trip, and because I went several times, they got to know me by name and never hasseled me.

    I haven’t been there in over a year, so my former familiarity is probably gone now.

    I’m not sure I’m a lot of help on this one. Maybe TAFKABBB may be able to lend a hand on this one. As I recall, he went to Sideline thinking I had recommended it and came away dispirited and calling me bad names. Perhaps he’s been to another Ping Pong show that he can recommend.

    If I’m motivated enough, maybe I’ll go to Patpong tonight and see if the place retains all of its former glory, and I can try to check out some other PP bars to see if any of them are cleaner, brighter or more comfortable. If there’s one thing that this site needs it’s a review of a Ping Pong Bar.

    If I do go — and there’s no guarantee that I will — I can try to talk to the mamasan and see if she can agree to a no-rip off night for your group.

    Beers are always gratefully accepted and consumed.

    Cheers,

    WW

  5. TAFKABBB Says:

    The Queen’s Castle bars are the only upstairs show-bars in Patpong not to have attempted to rip me off. They still suck, as do all the others, but they seem to charge reasonable fixed prices for beer, and don’t seem to attempt to extort a cover charge.

    These days, if tourists want to see pussy shows, I take them to Long Gun or Rawhide on Cowboy.

    WW: I didn’t call you bad names, but I did recommend Dick Masterson’s site in my final piece last month. Pay attention ;)

  6. Werewolf Says:

    TAFKABBB: I didn’t read your final piece. Lose the ego. ;)

  7. Werewolf Says:

    TAFKABBB: I just went over and read it. I see now that the last thing you did was recommend three websites for people who missed you: Dick Masterson’s site, the Ferang Speaks Too Much, and the newly launched Bangkok Guide.

    While I can’t fault any of the three recommendations that you made, notably absent was any mention of Werewolf’s Lair. That’s it, you’re officially off my Christmas card list. You need to take lessons from alan boon and suck up to me a little bit.

    Speaking of sucking up: thanks for the info about the Ping Pong shows; as always you’re a fountain of information.

    WW

  8. TAFKABBB Says:

    Heh. At the time, most of your pieces were being published on TFS2M as well as here. No slight was intended, I just didn’t think there was much point in sending people to read them twice.

    I haven’t been to all the upstairs bars in Patpong, but Sideline tried to rip me off (although I managed to persuade them not to), Super Pussy played the price switch scam – changing the beer price from B100 each to B300 each (I gave them B100 per beer and left immediately), and Super Queen just plain stole from me (refused to give me my change), although at least they didn’t try to charge for the show. I’ve heard nothing good about any of the other upstairs showbars.

    The Queen’s Castle bars seem to be generally acknowledged as the “safe” option, but that doesn’t necessarily make them worth visiting.

    Not every upstairs bar in Patpong is bad of course – only the show bars. The new Club 66 is cool and has some very cute coyote dancers, and the row of Thai karaoke bars upstairs on Patpong 2 can be good for a laugh. Apparently there’s a new Issan dancing bar on PP2 where Cleopatra used to be – I haven’t checked it out yet.

    To lose my ego would be to lose myself… ;)

  9. MSB Says:

    I thought Khon diaow meant “sad git” ??

    Makes me laugh seeing Mr Norman No-mates sitting alone in a gogo bar.

    Still i thought this was one of your better submissions and you perfectly explain why Thai girls just hate to be alone.

    I did read BBB final piece but have forgotten it already. He is sooooooo yesterday.

  10. Werewolf Says:

    BBB’s a legend.

  11. Phoenix Says:

    WW, great writing. When I read your posts I can’t help myself doubting why I set up my own blog recently. But since a blog’s first reason for appearance is usually the holy trinity me, myself and I, it should be all good for now :D

    I am also loner when I wonder the streets of Thailand on my vacation (except for the days with my GTG) .. at least during daytime. And… I love it.

    On my last trip in December I was in Baccara, Long Gunn and Suzie Wong. No girl came over to offer her company. So I can’t verify John Brown’s observations.

    BUT, in Farangland a lady would never approach me to invite me for adrink or even jump on my lap out of nowhere and talk some naughty things in my ear. Hey, I come to Thailand for that, what’s better than being in a position where you sometimes even have to try hard to get rid of a girl? What’s the alternative? Being ignored in Farangland? No thanks, I prefer the other way around.

    Ok, e.g. Afterskool is hardcore, the girls flock around you like seagulls around a fish-trawler and it’s hard to get rid of them. Last time in Afterskool I managed to keep just one young spinner beside me who showed me pictures from her and her friends celebrating Loy Kratong while two guys were sucked dry in the bad boy corner… that’s Thailand.. seedy, crazy, cute, naughty and whatever.. everything is there for all tastes.. I love it, give me more.

  12. Werewolf Says:

    TAFKABBB: Well, WordPress certainly has your number… Akismet blocks every one of your comments as spam; obviously someone there knows about you.

    Okay, you’re explanation is close enough to an apology for me… you’re back on the Christmas Card list. Please put your street address, mobile phone number, bank account details and mother’s maiden name here in the comment boxes so I can be sure the card reaches you.

  13. TAFKABBB Says:

    An e-card will suffice.

    Akismet is dreadful software.

  14. Thaiphile Says:

    Great post WW, I love your stuff, and the insights you bring. The khon diaow thing is one of the hardest things to understand for a farang. It also applies to break up situations, the GF simply can’t believe that ex BF wants some time on his own…

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