the doldrums

doldrums

I grew up knowing the colloquial usage of the term “being in the doldrums” which means being in a state of listlessness, despondency, inactivity, stagnation, or a slump, but it wasn’t until I saw a Hollywood movie (Bounty, with Mel Gibson and Anthony Hopkins from memory) that I learned the origin of the phrase.

It seems that the Doldrums is an area of ocean where the winds weaken, or disappear altogether, leaving sailing ships drifting on the open ocean. Let me offer this bit from Wikipedia:

The Doldrums (often capitalized when referring to the geographic region) is an area of the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean and the Indian Ocean affected by the Intertropical Convergence Zone, a low-pressure area around the equator where the prevailing winds are calm. The low pressure is caused by the heat at the equator, which makes the air rise and travel north and south high in the atmosphere, until it subsides again in the horse latitudes….

This region is also noted for calm periods when the winds disappear altogether, or are light and shifting. Hurricanes originate in this region. Because of the unpredictable weather patterns, the Doldrums became notorious with sailors because this region’s periods of deadly calm could trap ships for days or weeks on end as they waited for enough wind to power their sails.

I have been — not literally — but colloquially, in the doldrums for some time now, I think.

I’ve been doing some things to propel my life forward… for example, I’ve been dieting, and so far I’ve dropped 18 kilos (or about 40 pounds). I’ve gotten into a routine at the gym with my mate Penfold, which is leading to a fitter Werewolf. I’ve successfully increased my workload, bringing in somewhat higher paychecks, and I’ve been using the increased cash (mostly) to pay off some debt that I accumulated during a financially disastrous 5-moth period last year.

So, it seems hard to figure out why I would describe myself as listless, despondent, inactive, stagnant, or in a slump but that’s very much how things have been in the past few months.

It’s because of two things. One is that I’m beginning to chafe from the lack of challenge in my work. I don’t have a lot of responsibility or a lot of money here in Thailand, and both of those things are big changes from my past.  Throughout my life I’ve always been the boss to some degree or another at work, and that has meant deadlines, decisions and other people relying on me.

These days I work pretty much by myself, with little pressure. I really only need to perform at an acceptable level to collect my hourly rate, and there’s very little room to excel or expand.

When I first came to Thailand it was a welcome change. Work felt more like a holiday… it was rewarding — refreshing. But after 4 years it’s wearing a little thin. I am jealous of people who are racing the clock and doing the things that make or break companies.

But I suspect that the dreadful routine of work wouldn’t bother me as much if I didn’t have my panties twisted in a knot about a girl.

Like the liberated feeling that I had in work when I arrived in Thailand in 2005, I felt equally liberated by the easy sex with beautiful girls that required absolutely no commitment beyond paying the agreed short time price at the end. Like so many other men from countries across the world, I indulged deeply in the pleasures of the flesh here in Bangkok.

And eventually I found my own style that ‘felt’ right. I was seeing (typically) a stable set of 4 girls… having sex two to three times per week without much effort. I had the girls’ phone numbers, and I would simply call them a day or two ahead and schedule them to show up at my room on a certain night. In fact, for most of the girls, we simply established a set night each week, and I could simply confirm the time with them by SMS, and they would show up.

For a year or more this was a system that served me well.

But all of that changed last year in July.

The first half of last year (Jan to May 2008) was a financial disaster for me. My income all but disappeared. But a 6-week contract in June and July was the beginning of my financial comeback. I went to Northern Thailand for six weeks, earning a good chunk of change and I’ve been working steadily ever since.

But it disrupted my happy pattern of regular sex with a regular stable of girls.

While I was gone, I found one little cutie in Northern Thailand who seemed happy enough to be my personal pin cushion for the six weeks I was there. She was cheerful and cute and she kept me balls-deep in pussy while I was in the Mountain region of Thailand.

On my return to Bangkok I had a disastrous first weekend. Regular readers will recall that on my first weekend back in town I had my digital camera, two mobile phones, the cash from my wallet, and all my personal jewelry stolen by a freelancer I dragged home from Soi 4.

Not long after I suffered my infamous fall into a Bangkok sewer on Sukhumvit Road.

I’d say that I was feeling a bit stupid at that point, and possibly slightly betrayed by Bangkok. I was wondering what had gone wrong.

And then my phone rang. It was my favorite go go dancer calling.

I had first met her in October 2007. She’d been one of my ‘regular’ girls, but not really distinct from any of the others in any way. I just enjoyed her good attitude and the fact that sex with her was fun. But somewhere along the line in early 2008 we’d had a disagreement about something. She left my room in a snit one night, and so I hadn’t called her and she hadn’t called me. Half a year had drifted by and I hadn’t seen her.

But in July of 08, having just returned from the North, having just been robbed and having just fallen into a sewer full of shit… at a point when I was feeling a little bit dazed and alone, my favorite go go dancer called me after several months of non-contact.

Obviously she was suffering a dry spell with her customers and doing what every good salesperson does… she was going through her phone list trying to find some fresh sales from old customers.

Her timing was perfect. Did I want to see her? Hell yeah I wanted to see her. A familiar face. Good sex. Honesty.

So she came over.

And I had a great time.

Over the next few weeks I ventured out to the bars and parking lots of Bangkok’s pay-for-play areas, but the results with the girls were mostly disappointing. I found myself more and more picking up the phone and calling my favorite go go dancer.

By late August I’d stopped seeing or looking for anyone else. I was in a monogamous relationship (well, from my side anyway) with a Nana Plaza go go dancer.

As we raced through the calendar from August towards Christmas I spent more and more time with her. We took holidays together to Koh Samed, Amphawan and Kanchanaburi. I was enjoying life, and found myself looking forward to the next time I’d see her.

Sometime in late-November I made a decision that I wanted to try to retire her from the chrome pole. I was gonna invite her to move into my place with me and try to make it something real and permanent. I had an appointment to see her on a Saturday afternoon, and I decided that I’d talk to her about my idea that day.

And, like a typical Hollywood romantic comedy, that was the day I learned that she was going to Europe for six months with a customer.

I’d known for some time that the trip was planned. I just never imagined it would be for longer than 2 weeks or so, and I had doubted that she’d even be able to get the travel visa.

But she did.

And around Christmastime she left. I fact, I haven’t seen her since Christmas Eve, which I spent with her in her room.

I wasn’t quite sure what to do when she left. Wait for her? Seemed stupid and unrealistic for two reasons. First was the obvious issue that any guy who wanted to pay her to come to his place for six months must have marriage in mind, and second was that obvious availability of other go go dancers here in the city of angels.

But my cash was tight — while my favorite go go dancer had been in town I’d been spending every spare satang to have sex with her as often as I could. I’d simply increased the pace of spending and fucking when I knew she was going abroad, and I had fully drained my bank account (along with most of my bodily fluids).

So I decided to economize, get physically fitter, and pay down my existing debt while she was gone. Whether she came back or not, I’d be in better shape all-round by the time she returned.

My birthday rolled round about a month after she left, and I treated myself to two long-time sessions with a local girl from the Asok area. She was great fun… a good birthday present to myself.

But then I quickly returned to a strict budget that didn’t allow for bar fines, short-time or long-time sessions with hookers.

I managed to get through about 6 weeks before I started feeling that old ache.

So a few weeks ago I figured it was time to venture out to the bars and street corners of Bangkok again. To resume my old habits of catting around.

The results were pretty bad. For example, one night I barfined a little cutie from the Pink Panther bar in Patpong. We got in the taxi to go to my place. We hadn’t gone far when she said to me, It’ll be 2,000 short time.

I had no problem with that, and I playfully said that I’d planned on only giving her 100 baht. She responded rather seriously to what I said. I tried the joke again, “Okay, I’ll give you 200 baht.”

If you give me 200 baht, she said, I get out of the taxi now.

I snapped at her: “Get out then if you want”

She did. We were only about 6 blocks from Patpong on Rama 4, and we were in the right hand lane, but she hopped out of her side of the taxi.

Our conversation had been in Thai, but as it turned out, the taxi driver spoke damn near perfect English. He said to me in English, “I told her you were only kidding, but she didn’t listen. Stupid girl.”

In any event, I went home alone and with my wallet lighter to the tune of a 600 baht barfine for a six-block cabride with a Patpong dancer.

My next effort was at Soi Cowboy about a week ago. I had had a long evening drinking, starting with happy hour around 5 p.m. Somewhere around midnight I barfined a girl from Jungle Jim’s. From memory her name was Som or Oi… Som I think. She had a body that was wrapped very sexily and looked like a million bucks. The promise of a long night of satisfying sex with this girl was very appealing. She was on the tall side, and she was wearing a sexy black top and a short skirt. Fantastic.

ON the way home I actually ran into Penfold and Bangkok Bad Boy sitting on the sidewalk slurping down some late-night noodles. I stopped and chatted with them. Penfold told me the next day that looking at her he would have hit her in a New York minute.

Out of the shower in all her glory her body lived up to the promise. No baby marks, hourglass shape, large natural beautifully formed tits that stood up proudly. Wow!

We had a few preliminaries, but when it came time for the main event, I couldn’t get an erection. I was chock-full of beer, and wee willy was asleep and unresponsive. I just couldn’t make it happen.

I suggested a little oral help might solve the problem, but she wasn’t keen on that idea. I was just intoxicated enough to then suggest that losing the condom might do the trick… I may have even been a bit insistent on that point.

To her credit she was having none of it. She rather huffily told me I was an idiot to think about sex without a condom, she re-covered that gorgeous body with her sexy clothes, grabbed her oversized bag and whisked out the door while I sat limp-dicked naked on the bed.

O for 2.

There have been a few other bad situations with bar girls in March. Thank goodness the month is almost over. The fact is that, in spite of paying barfines, making the effort, and even getting as far as being naked, on my knees and between a girl’s legs with her pink pussy staring me in the face, I haven’t succeeded in getting laid. That’s quite a feat in Bangkok, where getting laid is normally as easy as buying milk at 7-11.

I’ve been dating a bit. A lovely young ICU nurse who seems to think I’m worth the effort. We’ve done dinner, movies and last week we even went to listen to live music at a club. This seems to be a relationship that can only end in tears.

My work will take me out of Bangkok for 6 of the next 9 weeks… probably a blessing for the nurse, who would do well to be rid of me.

Because my mind is still on my favorite go go dancer.

I am pretty sure that my inability to get laid by professional hookers of late is a self-destruction based on my own desire to simply wait until my favorite go go dancer gets back, and try to pick up where we left off. No one can fail to nail three or four bar girls in a row unless you really just don’t want to.

I realized today that my favorite go go dancer is scheduled to return to Bangkok in about 60 days. My busy season for work starts tomorrow… I’ll be flat out working most of that time between now and her return to Bangkok. In fact, I’ll be out of town when she gets back.

Like long-ago sailors who marked time in the Doldrums just waiting for the wind to catch their sails, I am simply marking time at the moment, waiting for my favorite go go dancer. The decision I made back in November, to retire her from the pole and move her in with me, sits unresolved.

I’ve done the most idiotic thing a man can do; I’ve fallen for a Bangkok Bar Girl. I don’t think I’ll be able to move out of the doldrums and get wind in my sails again until I see her in person and resolve whatever is going on with me and her.

Like the nurse, there’s probably no scenario involving my favorite go go dancer that has a happy ending, but I get the feeling that I won’t be moving on until after I’ve seen her again.

So I’ll drift along and count the days.

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27 Responses to “the doldrums”

  1. John Brown Says:

    It would be interesting to hear if you notice any changes in her behavior or attitude after having stayed in Farangland for 6 months. It must be a life changing/eye-opening experience for her. Just from being out of Thailand for this long will probably give her an indication of whether she can stay indefinetely in another country.

  2. swampthing Says:

    As I recall, you were hardly your charming self at the Pink Panther after some quick-fire drinking that night. The girls nicknamed you “mitter grum-pee” haha. My own girl was chuckling for ages over it. I can hardly imagine your mood improving significantly in the 6 blocks from Patpong to Rama 4, so I strongly suspect there’s another side of the story we’re not hearing here.
    I scored just fine…blowjob, up the creek, down the duff, bareback…whatever I wanted really. She then gave me a massage til I fell asleep, caressed me awake in the morning we tried out the three-way mirrors in the bathroom. She then politely accepted my 2,000 baht before tip-toeing beautifully down the corridor.
    Try carrying a bag of cuddly koalas!

  3. Werewolf Says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever claimed to be charming. In fact I generally acknowledge my lack of personality.

    I wasn’t in any sort of bad mood that night, but I’ve always been clear about the fact that when I drink I don’t get surly or violent… I get sleepy. We hit Patpong at the end of a long night of beer and I was simply tired. There’s no “other side” of the story… nothing more or less than I’ve written. Stupid girl over-reacting to a stupid joke. Like I said though… I’m beginning to believe that I’m subconsciously sabotaging my own attempts at banging bar girls.

    As for the potential changes in my favorite go go dancer, I had imagined before she left that they would be many and significant. Talking to her on the phone (we chatted for about an hour on Friday) she seems to have changed very little. I think one reason is that — so far at least — she hasn’t done so very much there. The guy she’s with is away at work all day, so she spends five days a week doing little more than the typical bar girl… sleeping, watching tv, listening to music. It’s only with the warmer weather that they’ve started being more active on the weekends, doing a bit of travelling and seeing some new things.

    She has made some new friends there, and she seems to be pretty bright and happy. So far tho, no indication that she has any plans other than to come back to Bangkok alone and on schedule.

    Of course, there’s a good chance of seeing many more changes between now and then.

  4. TeenageFC Says:

    It’s all the exercise WW. After all the regular exercise you’ve been doing, a random night on the piss puts the body in self defence mode. You’d think that being health and fit would allow you better staying power and recovery time. But it does the exact opposite.

    Because you’ve been looking after yourself, when the body gets a largish dose of booze, it starts to shut down with the hope that you will stop drinking and start your recovery earlier in preparation for move exercise.

    Same thing goes with getting regular sleep when you’ve been exercising regularly. The body needs that recovery time because it thinks it’s going to need energy for the next day so it starts storing it. When you start eating into that stored energy by late nights, heavy drinking etc, the body sort of feels let down by the owner hence the longer recovery, body parts not doing what they should.

    My advice, not that I am really in a position to give it, would be to bar fine earlier in the night, well before you’ve had a skin full. Have your way, then kick her out so you can get some decent sleep (unless you don’t have to work or exercise the next day – then keep her overnight).

    And try not to think about the MFGG so much….it’s eating you up man!

  5. Mobster Says:

    WW,
    For fucks sake …… just call her and tell her what you have written here !! If she had the option of living in a foreign country with our shit weather, shit food, shit tv and general lack of fun or living with you, then I assure you she would choose the latter !!

    Even if you area moody bastard sometimes !!

    You really seem to be letting this get to you and resolution, either positive or negative, is required. So don’t bother waiting those sixty days and get on the phone now. It will be a good test as to how she really thinks of you and it would be very easy for her to get back to LOS as soon as she could. ie, mother ill, etc etc etc.

    For us here in farangland reading your blog makes up for not being actually there so please keep up the good work. When BBB closed his blog I was personally gutted and yours really has filled that void. Kepp your chin up, keep smiling and keep blogging !!

    Regards,

    Mobster.

  6. Barang Says:

    Thanks for the beers we had back in February. Mojo’s was a great place to be! Did you ever get a chance to check out “Werewolf in Bangkok” the movie? Probably horrible, but might be amusing anyway.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756258/

  7. Werewolf Says:

    Mobster,

    We’ve had the discussion… both before she left and on the phone while she’s been gone. She understands all the things I’ve written here about her, and probably quite a bit more. She has no plans at all to return early, but she has assured me that she is coming back on schedule and alone.

    I wouldn’t be hanging out like this if we hadn’t discussed it… at least I don’t think I would be.

    I’m not so sure that its a slam dunk call between me & her other customer. He and I met her at almost exactly the same time, but he was in early with lots of attention while I was much slower to recognize her charms.

    As I said, my busy season for work starts in on Monday morning, and the next 60 to 90 days will see me working 7 days a week for the most part, so I suspect she’ll be back before I realize it. I suspect that things will get sorted out very quickly (one way or the other) following her return.

    BTW, in case the idea of ‘doldrums’sounds like depression, that’s not my intent. I’m not depressed or suicidal or anything like that… just sort of drifting directionless at the moment, and feeling unindpired to be sampling the youthful beauty available for a few baht in the Sukhumvit area.

    I guess I’m partly trying to explain the lack of anything to blog about. The change in how I’m living in Bangkok from a year ago and two years ago is profound insofar as I am mostly early to bed, early to rise, and living a pretty healthy lifestyle away from the bars and the women. Not exactly what most readers tune in for.

    If mfggd decides to move in with me that’ll probably provide grist for the mill. If she rejects the offer then I’ll probably be back in the go gos faster than you can say “lesbian show at suzie wong’s” (or else I’ll start chasing the nurse a little more aggressively… let’s hope for her sake that it doesn’t go that way. I’ve been a disappointment to every woman who’s ever known me).

    TFC: just to your last comment about mfggd “eating me up”. I think that was true in Jan when she first left, but I’ve moved well past that. At this point I’m petty much at ease about her and whatever decisions she makes about her life, but I do think that I’m in a “holding pattern” waiting to see what life will bring with it when she returns in 60 days or so. The blog above demanded a fairly comprehensive discussion about her to make sense… it probably has the effect of overstating how much of my mental or emotional energy she’s consuming.

    In late Dec and early Jan I was a bit obsessive about her and I would estimate that she was drawing about 40% of all my mental and emotional energy. I’d say that at this point it’s a bit closer to 1.5%

    I think that a heavy work schedule will save me from getting more obsessive as her return date approaches. I will be working out of town for 12 consecutive days before her rturn, and for three days after. It’s good, since it will give her the opportunity to take care of getting settled back in BKK without me sniffing at her panties and begging for attention as soon as she lands at Suvarnapumi.

    I’d like to write about something other than mfggd and the nurse. I think I’ll have some other ideas for blogs in coming days, so I don’t expect the next two months of the blog to be a morbid navel-gazing festival of mfggd reminicences. Hopefully there’ll be a few more interesting ideas coming along.

    Cheers,

    WW

  8. Fred Says:

    “I guess I’m partly trying to explain the lack of anything to blog about. The change in how I’m living in Bangkok from a year ago and two years ago is profound insofar as I am mostly early to bed, early to rise, and living a pretty healthy lifestyle away from the bars and the women. Not exactly what most readers tune in for.”

    Disagree with you there. I very much enjoy reading about your life in Bangkok (and upcountry), be it with or without yfggd.
    Of course it’s all about how you write it down, although I guess it helps having falling in manholes (ehh, sewers) as subject matter.

    Longtime reader. Thanks for re-opening the Lair.
    Good luck with your book. Please, don’t forget your blog.

    Cheers, Fred.

  9. Dave Says:

    Your refreshing honesty has always been the stand out feature of your blogging style, and this piece does not dissappoint. If its any consolation, reading your sisters blog…wws.werewolfessis.com…she actually writes you deeply dissapoint her only 80% of the time, and whilst, she continues, your dear Mother was closer to the 90% mark..there was a hell of a lot of love and respect in that remaining 10 or 20 percentile!

    Seriously though, my take is any fella who actually admits to dissapointing every woman he has ever known..unless of course he is french, and then its a given, is too self aware and honest to continually deliver poor service, at whatever level, and I’m sure you were being a tad tongue in cheek.

    Having said that, I will concur with your thoughts on the nurse front…when worlds collide springs to mind. I think maybe you have just burnt out on the bkk front…hit a wall..and perhaps yfggd is around at the right time, as it were, for you to feel that is the road you need to head down, but my take is you need more substance in your life all round.

    You are far from a shallow fella, and perhaps what was the life of reilly is not anywhere near as fulfilling as it once was, an inevitible jading along the way. Unlike the ugly fat twats in patts, with their robotic one dimensional lifestyles,…you need more emotionally and cerebrally than an endless stream of gymnastic spinners, boozing and tawdry superficial one night stands…errr….you sick fuck!

    ps…the hole in the floor story may have been a dark moment for you personally, but you come out the other end in tact, and thats where legends are made.

  10. gavinmac Says:

    This is all quite disappointing to me. I have already said that WW would be an idiot to drop a beautiful and charming nurse for an erratic go go dancer, who, by all accounts, still charges him money to spend time with her. Unfortunately, it seems that WW’s schoolgirl-like heart is pulling him down the path of such idiocy with the same certainty that gravity once pulled him into an open Sukhumvit sewer.

    So although I disagree with his plan, I feel compelled to offer him advice on winning back the little tramp, so that she can promptly ruin his life, then he can try to find a decent girl before he’s too old to do so.

    First, he should NOT follow Mobster’s advice of professing his love over the phone to the girl now and inviting her to move in with him now. Here’s why.

    When she left him in November, he was fat and broke. Dare I say that helped make her decision easier. He is now much thinner and has more money. In short, he is a better and more desirable WW than she ever knew. And in two more months he is going to look totally super cute due to all of this working out with YP.

    Actually, I suspect that the go go dancer’s pending return is what is motivating WW to keep working out so diligently. He’s obviously obsessed with her. I think he’s been on the stairmaster every day, pushing himself to near-death exhaustion, saying, “Just one more minute. Wheeze. One more minute. This will all be worth it in two months’ time when I have the ass of Billy Idol. Then I’ll be able to steal my go go dancer back from that French fucktard.”

    So, if he’s going to invite the girl to move in with him, he shouldn’t do it over the phone like some drunken schmuck. He should wait two more months and do it in person, as the new and improved gorgeous beefcake of a man he will be.

    Also, waiting until he sees her in person before extending his invitation gives him another VERY important advantage. It allows him to call an audible and abort the plan if she has put on a lot of weight eating sausage and cheese every day since November.

    I mean, imagine if he told the go go dancer now that he wants her to move in with him when she returns. Imagine if she said yes. Then imagine that in two months’ time she bursts through the flimsy walls of his apartment yelling “Hey Werewolf” and looking like an Isaan version of Courteney Cox wearing the fat suit on “Friends.” Bad times.

    Speaking of his apartment, if he wants to win this girl back, he needs to look and act richer when he sees her. Women like it when guys have money. Even prostitutes.

    Although she may seem like the same girl on the phone, she is undoubtedly going to have MUCH higher expectations of her men, and her life, than she did before she went to Europe. She has now seen the good life that most rice-farming bargirls only dream of. She has flown on a plane. She has experienced the miracle of hot water from a tap. She has worn shoes. After six months living in a palatial European villa, she is not going to be as impressed with his offer to share his 7,000 baht a month, one room, kitchen-on-the-balcony, peeping Tom hovel.

    He needs a new place. A castle for his queen. Or at least get some fluffier towels or something.

    Lastly, in preparation for the go go dancer’s return, he should more or less STOP talking to her on the phone every day for the next two months. My god, she left to live with another guy. Why is he talking to her on the phone so much between her shags of this other dude? If he wants to win her back, he needs to start projecting the confident image of a man who is definitely NOT spending ten hours a day sitting in his combination bedroom/foyer/toilet sniffing her panties and listening to old James Taylor records.

    Instead, he should be aloof and only engage in brief phone conversations with her during which he repeatedly mentions that he’s dating a nurse. If likes him at all, she will freak out with jealousy at the thought of him dating an educated, proper girl. This will raise insecurities with her which will effectively neutralize any superiority complex she has developed while serving as a ultra-sophisticated European mia noi.

    Jealousy of another girl in the picture + appearance of wealth + aloofness + new sublime buttocks = win back the bargirl. Every time.

  11. swampthing Says:

    What a bunch of agony aunts we’ve become.

    For the record, I was surprised to find that you are not, in fact, fat. Or not nearly as fat as I was expecting.
    Pretty obvious you’ve hit a brick wall in bangkok, which seems to happen to everybody at some point or other. I would be, too, after a lifestyle like that, which would be fun for…ooh…two years max. By day 4 last week I was thinking: “Shit! Most of these guys actually do this every week for years…”
    I wonder if your growing coolness for hookers, and your pining for someting more with Nurse and the other girl is symptomatic of a wider malaise?
    Seems to me you’re caught between a rock and a hard place. You’re tired of the endless barfining, so you’re experimenting with two potential relationships that you know are non-starters. There’s usually a message when a local starts looking at an (ex?)bargirl beyond a fine.
    Why don’t you take a break from it all, and get out of Thailand for a while? Get back on dry land for a month or so.

  12. TeenageFC Says:

    gavinmac….loved your post.

    are you the love child or Robin Williams and Dr Phil?

  13. Werewolf Says:

    oh my… if this keeps up I may have to disable the comments function. :)

    GM, you’ve got waaaaay too much time on your hands.

  14. Werewolf Says:

    I generally think it’s a bad idea for a blog author to use the comments to continually revise, review and explain the blog. I figure you let the original blog stand on it’s own unless there is some error or poor writing that needs to be dealt with.

    IN this case, I can only plead a certain sense of my own need to clarify my ideas — so I’m gonna violate my own guideline and spend some time in this space re-framing my ideas.

    1. I don’t see myself as “hitting a wall” in Bangkok… at least from the standpoint of women. I just happen to be in a strange place at the moment.

    When I first arrived in Bangkok to live full time, within a month I had met a good girl, who I blogged about at the time. She was unusual insofar as she was a Christian in a Buddhist country. I spent two or three years pursuing her, to no avail.

    About a year ago I met a girl who qualified as a good girl in every respect and the blog was an avenue for explaining my futile attempts to ask her out on a date.

    There have been others. Most of them simply never merited mention in the blog.

    The nurse is simply the most recent, and by far the most successful, attempt to date a good girl.

    I don’t find this particularly strange, though I feel compelled to admit that it’s counter to the mission of living in Bangkok.

    I certainly don’t see it as a bad thing to date a good Thai girl, but I don’t think I can do both — that is, pursue pay for play girls while having a real relationship with a good girl. I’m far too honest and far too innately monogamous for that.

    I don’t see a problem in dating the nurse in the right circumstances… the problem is that it isn’t the right circumstance at the moment, while I am clearly focused on mfggd. I fear that I started spending time on the nurse as a distraction from mfggd, and I continue seeing her as a backup plan. These are selfish motives that I recognize, but at the same time she is a truly lovely girl who is worthy of pursuit.

    Hence the odd comments about the probability of disaster… for her if she becomes attached to me and I end up with mfggd. That’s why my very busy out-of-town schedule is a good thing now. It physically separates me from the nurse while we’re still in the movie & dinner stage of getting to know each other.

    2. I don’t share the view that being a bargirl automatically disqualifies a woman from being a good person, a quality person, or a potential (or actual) life companion.

    It’s a job choice. The emotional and other strains are well known and I don’t think I have to enumerate them here, but I don’t have any special moral problem with prostitution as a job choice.

    The question (in my eyes) then, is whether I have the capacity to judge the character of the girl in question, then secondly whether it is possible to build a relationship with her.

    Clearly I am convinced about this girl’s quality of character. If you think that a prostitute can’t possibly exhibit quality of character then you’ve read too far already.

    What I’m not clear on is whether I can build a relationship with her, which is what I want to do.

    3. The timing of things was problematic from my point of view, because in the four month period from August to November last year I slowly fell for mfggd.

    At the time I knew she had a couple of devoted customers overseas (she was always quite open about it… she used my computer to check email and often showed me the email and SMS traffic from customers, sometimes to ask for clarification of meaning, and at other times to ask for recommendations on how to reply).

    On a Saturday in late November I sat down and suggested that she stop working in the gogo and come live with me. I explained exactly how, when and why I’d fallen for her.

    She said she couldn’t, since she was about to go to Europe (she’d mentioned the trip many times before). I told her that I could wait a few weeks until she returned. That’s when she told me what I hadn’t known before — the trip was planned for 6 months.

    Oops.

    Before she left, I told her that I would let her know if I changed my mind about wanting to live with her, and that she should let me know if she decided to make a permanent life with the guy overseas. We both agreed to this plan. Basically, things were ‘on hold’ until her return. She contacted me the day she landed on foreign soil, and has talked to me weekly since arriving. Recently the contact has become more frequent, typically about three times per week now, with her calling me a couple times a week.

    4. It seemed (and seems) fine to me that she should go to Europe. All expense paid trip. Mind expansion. A chance to find out if she likes living overseas and away from her country and her family. Maybe even a chance for her to find true love. Why would I try to take that away from her? I doubt I could have anyway, but the attempt, if I had made it, would have been purely selfish.

    She already knew how I felt; if that had been enough to reverse her plan I would have welcomed it, but since it didn’t there’s something to be learned from that too, isn’t there.

    And I see no reason to be offended that she talks to me between bouts of sex with one guy she knows well. After all, when she was in Bangkok I was falling for her between bouts of sex with numerous men, many of them strangers.

    At least now she’s got more stability in her life, and there’s ONE guy I’m competing with for her affections.

    5. I’m actually not jaded or burnt out on bar girls and barfining for casual sex. I still find the scene fun, but not as fun as mfggd, and while I am “pining” for her I seem to have no real interest in sex with anyone else.

    On the other hand, if it becomes clear that we have no future together, then it’ll be back to the bars.

    The worst outcome is probably the most likely. She’ll come back, resume her job in the bar, and still continue to see me as a paying customer among many. There’s the real possibility that I wouldn’t walk away from that.

    On another note:

    I worked on a blog until about 1 a.m. last night and then gave up, since I have a long workday ahead of me.

    I’m keen to get something new up so we can move past our current discussion.

    Hopefully I’ll get something new up before midnight Bangkok time.

  15. MSB Says:

    I can’t remember the last time I banged a Bangkok gogo girl – must have been over 2 years ago. Lost interest. But to get laid have you tried Tulip? Or if that fails just nip down to Pattaya for a night out.

  16. MSB Says:

    Have you tried Tulip? Guaranteed great sex.

  17. Werewolf Says:

    Went there once. It was good.

    http://bargirlsrpeople2.wordpress.com/2007/12/07/tulip-massage/

  18. Phoenix Says:

    Giving advice on relationships on the internet is like telling someone on the phone how to repair a car after he/she said “It makes a strange sound somewhere in the front”.

    But i give it a quick shot anyway: Even if she is a nice girl with a good character you still pay her for each time/night you have sex with her. So then she is a nice girl milking you.

    And I think GM is right: She will change in Europe like a sex-tourist changes after his first trip to Thailand. She will never forget the world back there and will want exactly that and even more of that for herself. If anybody will really marry her and/or take her to the West again I bet she will do so any time (if she really liked it over there of course).

    She might think you are a nice customer, but you are still a customer. Just keep on enjoying the needs of the flesh with her and nothing more. Go for the nurse or another good girl for something stable (we all can change, hehe) and have your side dishes as every real man has ;-) That’s what I would do :D

    Dr. Phoenix (Institute of Psychology, Bangkok, Sukhumvit Soi 4, above Charming Bar)

  19. Werewolf Says:

    you still pay her for each time/night you have sex with her. So then she is a nice girl milking you.

    Actually, she’s just fulfilling her job description as a go go dancer.

    The idea was to attempt to convert her from go go dancer to girlfriend, which would bring the pay-as-you go relationship to an end, and I would simply give her the keys to the vault. This is not as risky as it sounds since my personal vault is pretty empty.

    Living in the west isn’t really an problem issue if you think about it. If she wants to go to the West with me I can do that quite happily.

    It’s not like I can’t get a visa to leave Thailand. I’ve got two valid passports, I’m single white and free. I like Bangkok okay, but if I was settled down in a steady relationship, the advantages of living here for all the easily accessible pussy would pretty well disappear. I really am very monogamous by nature. I might as well go elsewhere, and there’s probably no better “elsewhere” on earth than Sydney Australia.

  20. Phoenix Says:

    WW, thanks for the insight. Interesting points. Wish you good luck then with the Gogo-girl. Can’t say much more since I know so little about your life, even if a private blog like this might suggest otherwise. Gavin, what’s your take? ;-)

  21. Werewolf Says:

    I need to apologize… in spite of my best intentions I can’t seem to crank out a blog today. I have three blogs half-written, but I’m not happy with any of them. I think I’m gonna pack up the computer for tonight and try again tomorrow.

    BTW, Karen, if you’re out there reading, I haven’t forgotten about your work. Soon… I promise. Really.

  22. Why Pee? Says:

    I’m awaiting the drama of the return of M.y F.avorite G.o G.o D.ancer or MFGGD, to save time and space. What ever happened to WFMCH (to save time and space)? (wolf’s favorite member club hotty) She looked ok.

    Y.P (why Pee?)

  23. ArtTv Says:

    Like they always say, you don’t lose a girlfriend, you only lose your turn.
    Get in line at the next chance you have.
    A non-girlfriend encounter would do you good.

  24. ArtTv Says:

    Maybe treat yourself to a soapie.

  25. Werewolf Says:

    I wonder if you actually read what I wrote….

  26. Werewolf Says:

    MSB: I gotta apologize… the spam filter put you on the ‘bad’ list for some strange reason, and all your comments were going into the bin.

    WordPress changed the back-office part of the site a while ago. There were a lot of improvements but one thing is not as good. In the old system I had a big red-letter message at the top of the screen telling me how many comments had been tossed in the spam bucket or held for moderation. In the new model, the info is available but it shows up well off the visible part of the screen on the left hand column.

    I hadn’t really looked at the spam and moderation comments for a while. Hopefully Akismet (the anti spam system) will figure out that all your comments were approved and that you’re an “okay” reader.

    I’ll try to be more aware of the spam bucket going forward. I used to clear it several times a day, but I probably let a month go by without checking it.

  27. nurseRon Says:

    dude I think my first 2 days in Patts shut out and then the 2nd two day trip with one very unsatisfying short time with a smoking hot gogo dancer rivals your streak?
    Actually I was quite surprised when you told me of your feeling for miss MfggD! Having been in town I haven’t been reading and we were out drinking and whoring as usual, although come to think of it you never did nail anyone during our adventures? Anyway we all think we know whats best and thats just the way it goes! Follow your heart and if it upsets your gut your most likely on the right path, Ae hoser?

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